Fully Charged Toyota Auris HSD
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 11:28Posted in category Toyota
A brief meander in the new Toyota Auris HSD, and a quick wash
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randomdude10010 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
What is your problem with Top Gear?
Zcow29 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Great show thank you!
fullychargedshow says:
April 12th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
@snipe4ever I wish I’d replied to this earlier and I wish I’d made this much clearer. The cars always use the batteries and electric motor, if that doesn’t work, neither does the car. So the batteries were still working, and after extensive tests they had around 85% of the capacity they had when they were brand new.
suoko1 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 1:47 pm
563.150 km with one battery pack ? a life longer then a common car motor then
SupportForToyota says:
April 12th, 2011 at 2:26 pm
Declared the CAR OF THE FUTURE, the Auris HSD is basically the car to be copied, the TEACHER impossible to be surpassed.
sparkygl0s says:
April 12th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Robert.
You say it is lighter than the Prius. Toyota quote the same kerb weight for both cars. 1420kg.
snipe4ever says:
April 12th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
Do the battries still work in the taxis you quoted as doing 300,000 miles or are they now just using the petrol engine?
timitim66 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
My brother has a 2004 Renault Clio 1.4 diesel and normally gets about 65mpg some times more if he tries. The road tax is only £30. And it has enough get up and go for every day use.
Why do Toyota insist on using large un-efficient petrol in this car and the prius. If they used a diesel like the one the clio I am sure 90+mpg combined could be achieved.
c53204 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Does anyone keep a car for 300,000 miles. No!
Example, the UK average annual mileage is (insurance industry figure) 12,000 miles. Many people change their car every 3-4 years. So any TOC have to take these figures into account – not just the fuel savings.
antiLeixo says:
April 12th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Hello, i like alot your show keep up the good work!
I know that you dont like the PORSCHE Cayenne but now there is a green one !!!
Called “porsche cayenne S hybrid” i hope you do a review of it hahahaha Good luck with everything!
WesternClimateUSA says:
April 12th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
New Episode Please.
munteruk says:
April 12th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
So when is the next episode coming?
feckingbillgates says:
April 12th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
Goldfish sized??
WesternClimateUSA says:
April 12th, 2011 at 5:39 pm
Before we can power our electric cars from renewable energy rather than coal (50-80 years), we must first use electric cars (25-30 years). Robert! How about the think and aptera electric vehicles?
Charles2337 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
@fullychargedshow
Yeah, but you think this crapbox would last 300 000 + miles? lol The hybrid system used in this car is bound to fail; more complications, more things to fail.
I agree it’s a step in the right direction but I’m not convinced its a solution. Plug in hybrids have a fighting chance though like the Chevy Volt. It is a more efficient hybrid system. You should review one if you get a chance!
eldictator1 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
@fullychargedshow I agree. This brings me back to one of your original points about “cars in their nature can never being green” I see articles with an “A HA” Headline trying to debunk the E.V movement with a story about Bolivian mining of salt flats and the issues of water extraction and miners rights. But nothing is more environmentally damaging and energy intensive than extracting oil and refining it. Like the C02 issue, electric cars aren’t a magic bullet but they do reduce our impact
fullychargedshow says:
April 12th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
@kaytronika I agree, it’s a steep price, but the Prius has proved very reliable with original battery pack to last a long time and go a long way. There are many 100’s of Prius taxis around the world that have clocked up over 300,000 miles. Those taxi companies have all agreed they have saved far more than £8 grand in fuel over that time. Over 300,000 miles the savings are around £20,000
fullychargedshow says:
April 12th, 2011 at 7:30 pm
@eldictator1 Thanks, I think this is the most sensible comment I have ever read about battery manufacturing and the impact it may have. I think we should be concerned, we should scrutinise what’s going on, we should make it clear we are unwilling to support companies that use old school methods in their mining etc.
fullychargedshow says:
April 12th, 2011 at 7:31 pm
@Charles2337 I think we broadly agree, it’s only the anti hybrid stance that I take issue with. Countless studies have shown that over its proven lifetime (300,000+ miles) a hybrid makes such gargantuan fuel savings over a comparably sized 5 seat saloon that it’s overall lower contribution to both CO2 and other pollutants, and it’s corresponding lower fuel use counteracts all the concerns we should rightly have about battery manufacture. I feel it’s a step in right direction
eldictator1 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 8:22 pm
@fullychargedshow A big fan of the show and an E.V fan. I think the lithium mining process in some cases is cause for slight concern. I understand it is not a rare earth material and that it can be extracted from sea water, but the Bolivian supply needs monitoring. The local population will probably lose out and there are small environmental issues(they do pale in insignificance compared to most mines). I think large corporations need to address these issues before they become an achiles heel.
Charles2337 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 9:20 pm
@fullychargedshow
…. Hybrid cars still require gasoline and oil along with the plastic parts that make up the car.
So hybrid cars still contribute to the oil extraction industry AND the battery industry. Which is worse than a gasoline or diesel only car of the same size.
Obviously if you compare a Pruis to a Hummer, the Hummer still has a greater carbon footprint. But compare a Pruis to a Civic or Corolla… the Pruis has a greater carbon footprint. Hybrids are just a waste of money.
fullychargedshow says:
April 12th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
@Charles2337 No, I never forget such things. However when compared to the impact of the oil extraction industry and the subsequent transportation costs, refining costs etc, and when I say costs I’m talking global environmental and economic, it puts the mining and refining of lithium very much in the shade. Lithium makes up a tiny part of the batteries (2%) and it can be 100% re-cycled. Show me a gasoline re-cycling plant and I’ll buy a V8 Range Rover
fullychargedshow says:
April 12th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
@TheTVLicence Well well. I didn’t expect you to agree with me. The counter spin from the pro oil lobby is far better funded and massively over exposed in traditional media, which of course they will part own. The road tax for the Auris is zero, and for your super eco petrol car is £250. £250 buys a lot of fuel, especially if you get over 80 mpg which the Auris does quite easily. I would contest that every point I made in my spin crazy Blairite ranting stands scrutiny.
Charles2337 says:
April 12th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
You seem to forget about the mining and refining process of lithium… hybrid cars are just as bad as gasoline cars. It’s just a waste of money.
I’m waiting for fully electric cars to be affordable.
TheTVLicence says:
April 12th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
Fucking £400-£500 road tax!
He has to pick the highest possible figure, he’s NOT driving a SUV so how can he compare the two?
They’re not like for like, I drive a 2.0 litre petrol family car and it costs £205 per year in road tax. He believes his own spin does Bobby boy, we DON’T all fucking drive around in 4X4 SUVs Land/Range Rovers.
You really need to drop the spin Bob, your lying to yourself as well as everyone else, the only trouble is YOU fucking believe it.
Tony Blair springs to mind!